Request standards positions from Mozilla and WebKit

[reillyeon]

Given that we are getting close to launching an Origin Trial in Chromium for parts of the WebNN API it's time to request more formal standards positions from other browser vendors. This doesn't need to be a complete review, given that there are aspects of the API that are still fuzzy, but this is a conversation that should be happening.

[anssiko]

Added to TPAC agenda webmachinelearning/meetings#25 to discuss expectations. Related feedback from Chrome #453 has been helpful for the group. Since that feedback was submitted, both Apple and Mozilla joined the WG that will help form informed positions.

[reillyeon]

Given we're close to announcing an Origin Trial for WebNN in Chrome (and Edge?) I would appreciate the editors requesting these standards positions. @huningxin @fdwr

[inexorabletash]

https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/wide-review/#signal-process has the guidance we follow, which includes links for requesting a standards positions from Mozilla and WebKit

[inexorabletash]

Note that mozilla/standards-positions#1215 was recently filed

[iampi31415]

Same text for WebKit, more or less WebKit/standards-positions#486

cc: @reillyeon in case this can be closed.

[reillyeon]

I was expecting the editors to do this, but thank you @iampi31415 for taking initiative here.

[iampi31415]

You are welcome 😄 , I hadn't seen this issue, I just did it because I want to know their position.

[iampi31415]

Note that I've closed my personal request for positions to Webkit and Mozilla because I didn't sense any interest from them. The links are above so I won't repeat them here.

If you need it and want to re-issue them, you can use mine, or write some better ones.

Just letting you know in case it causes any inconvenience.

[reillyeon]

Re-opening this because I would still like the editors of this specification to request positions from Mozilla and WebKit when they are ready.

[anssiko]

Mozilla’s standards position is supportive:

mozilla/standards-positions#1215 (comment)

I have informed our WebKit friends.

[RReverser]

Mozilla’s standards position is supportive:

Worth updating https://chromestatus.com/feature/5176273954144256#consensus ?

Given that we are getting close to launching an Origin Trial in Chromium for parts of the WebNN API

Also, I haven't found one, but just in case I missed it - has there been an Origin Trial for WebNN since or is it still available only behind a manual flag?

I've been playing with WebNN a bit lately, and being able to leverage the much faster tensor cores (getting 5x+ performance improvement on my ONNX model compared to the WebGPU backend: https://bsky.app/profile/rreverser.com/post/3m6ww7y4phs2a), access the NPU, and, not to mention, the much more JS-friendly API for building compute pipelines all got me pretty excited.

[reillyeon]

Thanks for the reminder to update the ChromeStatus entry. There hasn't been an Origin Trial yet but we are planning to launch one soon.