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This a long overdue update of our buffer and DMA handling to support 64-bit (aka extended) mappings.

64-bit DMA is supported on Hexagon v81 and up (Gen5, X2-Elite, IQ10) and allows us to memory map buffers above the 4GB virtual address space on the NPU. Those buffers can be used only with the DMA engine (DDR -> DMA[in] -> VTCM -> DMA[out] -> DDR).

The performance improvements are noticeable with larger models like gemma-4-26B, gpt-oss-20b, ...
64-bit DMA support removes all overhead of having to dynamically map/unmap the tensor buffers during inference.

This update required quite a few changes in many ops. Some ops like MUL_MAT, FA, GDN, SSM_CONV, ... had to be completely overhauled to avoid reading tensors directly via DDR->L2->HVX. This is a good thing in general (not specific to 64bit) and allows for better memory BW utilization.
MUL_MAT has seen the most updates and I was able to get rid of all the legacy paths.

For the ops that already supported the DMA in all paths the changes are focused on properly maintaining dma_addr_t for the base addresses. This is a no-op on the older Hexagon arches.
This change uncovered some issues with the register spills (both scalar and HVX) and requires a slightly different approach to optimizing the kernels (ie not inlining the inner micro-kernels into the dma pipeline/loop). I added a new little tool ggml-hexagon-inspect.py that can do disasm, detect register spills and unnecessary float conversions (snapdragon/developer.md has been updated to include this info).

As part of the DMA overhaul I also completely re-wrote large-transaction fallback path for v73 (ie when row size or n_rows exceeds DMA engine limits). It's now implemented as a separate ring buffer that is used to flush out large transaction without affecting the rest of the pipeline sequence (helps with newer/larger models on X-Elite and IQ9).

This feature has been extensively tested on all supported devices and a good set of the latest models. So it's enabled by default. It's possible that I missed some scenarios though. So if folks see issues please report and you can disable it with GGML_HEXAGON_DMA64=0 or scripts/snapdragon/run.py --hex-dma64 0 ....

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hex-dma64: expand binary ops to support more DMA scenarios

hex-dma64: add binary-ops.h

hex-dma64: add --hex-dma64 to run.py and fix minor issues

hex-dma64: update SSM_CONV to use dma with proper support for 64bit

hex-ops: remove obsolete gate for % 128 in binary ops

hex-l2: dont check weight tensors against dirty ranges

hex-dma64: most binary ops now support dma

hex-dma: use dma_addr_t instead of plain uint64_t to avoid overhead on older targets

hex-dma: update all dma users to use dma_data (instead of pointers)

hex-dma64: simplify lazy buffer mapping and clonning

hex-fusion: factor out try_fuse_common that checks for dma64 buffers

hex-bufs: minor cleanup for mmaping logic

hex-bufs: simplify buffer clonning

hex-ssm-conv: tighten gating checks and check vtcm size in kparams

hex-binary: fix incorred mod/wrap in scalar ops

hex-binary: make sure to call precompute kparams in support checks

hex-dma64: update addr handling in mm,concat,binary

hex-dma64: fixing up leftover of dma_addr_t conversion

hex-binary: redo the kernel selection again and fix regressions in MOEs

hex-binary: specialize per-type/per-op

hex-binary: vtcm-layout and per-src dma-queue

hex-dma64: update dma_push to transparently handle 64bit/extended
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@lhez please review/ack when you get the chance

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LadislavSopko pushed a commit to 0ics-srls/llama.cpp that referenced this pull request Oct 5, 2026
…s + improvements (ggml-org#29197)

* hex-dma64: enable support extended buffer mappings and 64bit dma

hex-dma64: expand binary ops to support more DMA scenarios

hex-dma64: add binary-ops.h

hex-dma64: add --hex-dma64 to run.py and fix minor issues

hex-dma64: update SSM_CONV to use dma with proper support for 64bit

hex-ops: remove obsolete gate for % 128 in binary ops

hex-l2: dont check weight tensors against dirty ranges

hex-dma64: most binary ops now support dma

hex-dma: use dma_addr_t instead of plain uint64_t to avoid overhead on older targets

hex-dma: update all dma users to use dma_data (instead of pointers)

hex-dma64: simplify lazy buffer mapping and clonning

hex-fusion: factor out try_fuse_common that checks for dma64 buffers

hex-bufs: minor cleanup for mmaping logic

hex-bufs: simplify buffer clonning

hex-ssm-conv: tighten gating checks and check vtcm size in kparams

hex-binary: fix incorred mod/wrap in scalar ops

hex-binary: make sure to call precompute kparams in support checks

hex-dma64: update addr handling in mm,concat,binary

hex-dma64: fixing up leftover of dma_addr_t conversion

hex-binary: redo the kernel selection again and fix regressions in MOEs

hex-binary: specialize per-type/per-op

hex-binary: vtcm-layout and per-src dma-queue

hex-dma64: update dma_push to transparently handle 64bit/extended

* hex-cpy: fix improper rebase with the fixes for cont. tensors

* hex-dma-cpy: update CPY to use safe dma rows/size limits

* hex-mmap: bump number of mmaps to 64 to allow avoid eviction in larger models

* hex-dma: add support for the secondary ring as a fallback for too-large transactions

* hex-rope: fix freq_factors access with 64bit dma

* hex-dma: audit all ops for proper use/gards for 64bit addresses

* hex-dma64: uninline glu-compute funcs to avoid register pressure due to 64bit addr math

* hex-dma64: refactor binary ops to separate dma loops

* hex-devel: add inspect script to help with dbg and analysis

* hex-dma: refactor dma-pipelines in unary-ops

* hex-dma: rewrite softmax to use dma

* hex-dma: rewrite GDN dma loops and improve HVX register usage

* hex-gdn: fuse GDN+CPY

* hex-mm: factor out HVX solver

* hex-mm: remove hvx-flat kernels, the chunked version now handles vtcm limits much better

* hex-buffs: reject huge buffer allocations that we cannot memory map

* hex-inspect: add logic to look for float promo calls

* hex-mm: reduce HVX register spills in HVX prompt kernels

* hex-bufs: do not double count buffers from tensors in the same op

* hex-roll: fix merge conflict

* hex-dma: reroute all matmul ddr kernels to new chunked dma/vtcm kernels

* hex-dev: update developer docs to include inspection for register spils and float promos

* hex-ops: forgot to add new headers

* hex-softmax: fix gpt-oss dims

* hex-dma64: cleanup dma_addr_t casts

* hex-dma64: add support for dma/vtcm for flash-atten with sinks

* hex-mm-add: fix MUL_MAT+ADD fusion with bias.weights in extended bufs

* hex-add-id: add support for dma for src1 (exp. table)

* hex-dma: imrpove v73 fallback paths

* hex-bufs: do not drop extended mappings during va defrag

* hex-scripts: fix flake8 warnings

* hex-docs: fix editor-config warnings

* hex-inspect: fix warnings from ty
frostyautumnleaf pushed a commit to frostyautumnleaf/llama.cpp that referenced this pull request Oct 5, 2026
…s + improvements (ggml-org#29197)

* hex-dma64: enable support extended buffer mappings and 64bit dma

hex-dma64: expand binary ops to support more DMA scenarios

hex-dma64: add binary-ops.h

hex-dma64: add --hex-dma64 to run.py and fix minor issues

hex-dma64: update SSM_CONV to use dma with proper support for 64bit

hex-ops: remove obsolete gate for % 128 in binary ops

hex-l2: dont check weight tensors against dirty ranges

hex-dma64: most binary ops now support dma

hex-dma: use dma_addr_t instead of plain uint64_t to avoid overhead on older targets

hex-dma: update all dma users to use dma_data (instead of pointers)

hex-dma64: simplify lazy buffer mapping and clonning

hex-fusion: factor out try_fuse_common that checks for dma64 buffers

hex-bufs: minor cleanup for mmaping logic

hex-bufs: simplify buffer clonning

hex-ssm-conv: tighten gating checks and check vtcm size in kparams

hex-binary: fix incorred mod/wrap in scalar ops

hex-binary: make sure to call precompute kparams in support checks

hex-dma64: update addr handling in mm,concat,binary

hex-dma64: fixing up leftover of dma_addr_t conversion

hex-binary: redo the kernel selection again and fix regressions in MOEs

hex-binary: specialize per-type/per-op

hex-binary: vtcm-layout and per-src dma-queue

hex-dma64: update dma_push to transparently handle 64bit/extended

* hex-cpy: fix improper rebase with the fixes for cont. tensors

* hex-dma-cpy: update CPY to use safe dma rows/size limits

* hex-mmap: bump number of mmaps to 64 to allow avoid eviction in larger models

* hex-dma: add support for the secondary ring as a fallback for too-large transactions

* hex-rope: fix freq_factors access with 64bit dma

* hex-dma: audit all ops for proper use/gards for 64bit addresses

* hex-dma64: uninline glu-compute funcs to avoid register pressure due to 64bit addr math

* hex-dma64: refactor binary ops to separate dma loops

* hex-devel: add inspect script to help with dbg and analysis

* hex-dma: refactor dma-pipelines in unary-ops

* hex-dma: rewrite softmax to use dma

* hex-dma: rewrite GDN dma loops and improve HVX register usage

* hex-gdn: fuse GDN+CPY

* hex-mm: factor out HVX solver

* hex-mm: remove hvx-flat kernels, the chunked version now handles vtcm limits much better

* hex-buffs: reject huge buffer allocations that we cannot memory map

* hex-inspect: add logic to look for float promo calls

* hex-mm: reduce HVX register spills in HVX prompt kernels

* hex-bufs: do not double count buffers from tensors in the same op

* hex-roll: fix merge conflict

* hex-dma: reroute all matmul ddr kernels to new chunked dma/vtcm kernels

* hex-dev: update developer docs to include inspection for register spils and float promos

* hex-ops: forgot to add new headers

* hex-softmax: fix gpt-oss dims

* hex-dma64: cleanup dma_addr_t casts

* hex-dma64: add support for dma/vtcm for flash-atten with sinks

* hex-mm-add: fix MUL_MAT+ADD fusion with bias.weights in extended bufs

* hex-add-id: add support for dma for src1 (exp. table)

* hex-dma: imrpove v73 fallback paths

* hex-bufs: do not drop extended mappings during va defrag

* hex-scripts: fix flake8 warnings

* hex-docs: fix editor-config warnings

* hex-inspect: fix warnings from ty
edwardyoon pushed a commit to edwardyoon/focus-llama that referenced this pull request Oct 7, 2026
…s + improvements (ggml-org#29197)

* hex-dma64: enable support extended buffer mappings and 64bit dma

hex-dma64: expand binary ops to support more DMA scenarios

hex-dma64: add binary-ops.h

hex-dma64: add --hex-dma64 to run.py and fix minor issues

hex-dma64: update SSM_CONV to use dma with proper support for 64bit

hex-ops: remove obsolete gate for % 128 in binary ops

hex-l2: dont check weight tensors against dirty ranges

hex-dma64: most binary ops now support dma

hex-dma: use dma_addr_t instead of plain uint64_t to avoid overhead on older targets

hex-dma: update all dma users to use dma_data (instead of pointers)

hex-dma64: simplify lazy buffer mapping and clonning

hex-fusion: factor out try_fuse_common that checks for dma64 buffers

hex-bufs: minor cleanup for mmaping logic

hex-bufs: simplify buffer clonning

hex-ssm-conv: tighten gating checks and check vtcm size in kparams

hex-binary: fix incorred mod/wrap in scalar ops

hex-binary: make sure to call precompute kparams in support checks

hex-dma64: update addr handling in mm,concat,binary

hex-dma64: fixing up leftover of dma_addr_t conversion

hex-binary: redo the kernel selection again and fix regressions in MOEs

hex-binary: specialize per-type/per-op

hex-binary: vtcm-layout and per-src dma-queue

hex-dma64: update dma_push to transparently handle 64bit/extended

* hex-cpy: fix improper rebase with the fixes for cont. tensors

* hex-dma-cpy: update CPY to use safe dma rows/size limits

* hex-mmap: bump number of mmaps to 64 to allow avoid eviction in larger models

* hex-dma: add support for the secondary ring as a fallback for too-large transactions

* hex-rope: fix freq_factors access with 64bit dma

* hex-dma: audit all ops for proper use/gards for 64bit addresses

* hex-dma64: uninline glu-compute funcs to avoid register pressure due to 64bit addr math

* hex-dma64: refactor binary ops to separate dma loops

* hex-devel: add inspect script to help with dbg and analysis

* hex-dma: refactor dma-pipelines in unary-ops

* hex-dma: rewrite softmax to use dma

* hex-dma: rewrite GDN dma loops and improve HVX register usage

* hex-gdn: fuse GDN+CPY

* hex-mm: factor out HVX solver

* hex-mm: remove hvx-flat kernels, the chunked version now handles vtcm limits much better

* hex-buffs: reject huge buffer allocations that we cannot memory map

* hex-inspect: add logic to look for float promo calls

* hex-mm: reduce HVX register spills in HVX prompt kernels

* hex-bufs: do not double count buffers from tensors in the same op

* hex-roll: fix merge conflict

* hex-dma: reroute all matmul ddr kernels to new chunked dma/vtcm kernels

* hex-dev: update developer docs to include inspection for register spils and float promos

* hex-ops: forgot to add new headers

* hex-softmax: fix gpt-oss dims

* hex-dma64: cleanup dma_addr_t casts

* hex-dma64: add support for dma/vtcm for flash-atten with sinks

* hex-mm-add: fix MUL_MAT+ADD fusion with bias.weights in extended bufs

* hex-add-id: add support for dma for src1 (exp. table)

* hex-dma: imrpove v73 fallback paths

* hex-bufs: do not drop extended mappings during va defrag

* hex-scripts: fix flake8 warnings

* hex-docs: fix editor-config warnings

* hex-inspect: fix warnings from ty

(cherry picked from commit 0c3626e)
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