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Memory stream queue grain dequeue calls time out after 30s on memex, stalling stream message delivery (memory-7) #5301

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Description

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What is failing

The Orleans memory-stream receiver MemoryAdapterReceiver (queue memory-7) fails to dequeue messages from its IMemoryStreamQueueGrain: the inter-silo call to IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(Int32) from the stream agent silo to the grain-hosting silo does not complete within Orleans' 30-second response timeout. This delays or drops delivery of stream messages carried by the memory-7 queue until the receiver's retry loop recovers.

Probable cause

Cause unclear, but the evidence points at a wedged or overloaded queue grain / silo on the memex instance rather than a defect in the receiver code. The timeout is on the grain-to-grain call itself (sys.svc.stream.agent -> memorystreamqueue/... Dequeue), meaning the hosting silo did not answer in 30 s — classic silo thread-pool starvation or a stuck grain turn. This is consistent with the repeated memex restarts for "wedged read hubs" (see Ops/Actions/restart-memex-wedged-reads-20260921) and the large cluster of sibling incidents at the same log site over the past days (TimeoutException, SiloUnavailableException and OrleansMessageRejectionException across memory-0 through memory-7). Confidence: medium — the receiver is the reporter, not the culprit.

Impact

Minimal in isolation: a single occurrence on a single pod (memex-portal-deployment-5c99d79997-7qdb4), with the receiver retrying. The risk is that it is an early symptom of the same silo congestion that has repeatedly wedged memex and required operator restarts; if the underlying starvation recurs, stream delivery across all eight memory queues stalls.

Where to look

  • Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs — the receiver that logs this failure (GetQueueMessagesAsync, line ~45).
  • The queue grain hosting on the target silo (memorystreamqueue/... in the sample) — check silo thread-pool queue length and grain-call latency around the timestamp.
  • Related ops history: Ops/Actions/restart-memex-wedged-reads-20260921 and Ops/Actions/restart-memex-confirmed-20260921 (MeshWeaver#5073).

Possible duplicate

This fingerprint was folded from incident 9dc66e5046d3e6e4 (same site, same symptom), and the broader memory-queue incident cluster should be treated as one investigation. If a ticket already covers the memex silo congestion / wedged memory-stream queue grains, this can be closed as a duplicate of it.


Evidence

Fingerprint 515d2d1921e52e4c
Category Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7`
Severity Error
Exception System.TimeoutException
Namespace memex
Pods memex-portal-deployment-5c99d79997-7qdb4
Occurrences 1
First seen 2026-09-22 19:15:39Z
Last seen 2026-09-22 19:15:39Z
Routing not determined — no configured route matches the category Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7`. This repository is the configured fallback, not a finding about who owns the fault; the category names the LOGGER, which may not be the subject.
Recent log lines
2026-09-22 19:15:39Z memex-portal-deployment-5c99d79997-7qdb4 fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
      Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
      System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.2.157:11111:149109240 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.2.157:11111@149109240+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.5.235:11111:149109296 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32) #7DD7C24373E25A3A. 
         at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
      --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
         at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 45

Re-addressed by the current identity function: this incident inherited 9dc66e5046d3e6e4 (Systemorph/MeshWeaver.Plugins#1796). Those nodes are superseded and will not fold, file or comment again.

Opened automatically from Admin/_LogIncident/515d2d1921e52e4c. Recurrences are folded into this issue rather than opening new ones.

Activity

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    on Sep 22, 2026
  2. rbuergi commented on Sep 23, 2026

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    Duplicate of #4802.

    Same code site: the Orleans memory-stream reader, PersistentStreamPullingAgent.ReadFromQueue → MemoryAdapterReceiver.GetQueueMessagesAsync → IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue on a queue grain hosted by another silo.

    This issue's own discriminator: memex 19:15:39Z, pod 5c99d79997-7qdb4, queue memory-7, 30 s TimeoutException. The event behind it: the target 10.244.5.235:…:149109296 is the new xs87x, which booted at 19:15:01Z, 38 s earlier; its bake sweep ran at 19:17:30Z.

    The reader recovers without help. In decompiled Orleans.Streaming 10.3.1, PumpQueue retries ReadFromQueue up to 6 times with backoff, and if it gives up, the agent's grain timer starts a new pump on its next tick. This issue's samples show no Giving up reading line. What is lost is the RAM-resident queue content on the silo that left or stalled, which is the structural exposure #4802 tracks (the AddMemoryStreams retirement order is recorded there). The full per-issue table is on #4802.

  3. systemorph-com commented on Sep 26, 2026

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    Left closed — this ticket was closed as NOT PLANNED, which is a decision rather than a claim that the fault stopped. The occurrences below are recorded here; if the decision should change, that is a person's call and not a recurrence's.

    Still occurring: 1 more since the last update (2 total).

    • Last seen: 2026-09-24 10:00:52Z
    • Pods: memex-portal-deployment-5c99d79997-7qdb4, memex-portal-deployment-56fbdcd48f-sz5st
    Recent log lines
    2026-09-22 19:15:39Z memex-portal-deployment-5c99d79997-7qdb4 fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.2.157:11111:149109240 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.2.157:11111@149109240+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.5.235:11111:149109296 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32) #7DD7C24373E25A3A. 
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 45
    2026-09-24 10:00:52Z memex-portal-deployment-56fbdcd48f-sz5st fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.9.67:11111:149247132 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.9.67:11111@149247132+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.3.152:11111:149236134 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32) #1AEC08E01166263E. 
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 45
    

    Re-addressed by the current identity function: this incident inherited 9dc66e5046d3e6e4 (Systemorph/MeshWeaver.Plugins#1796). Those nodes are superseded and will not fold, file or comment again.

  4. systemorph-com commented on Sep 26, 2026

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    Left closed — this ticket was closed as NOT PLANNED, which is a decision rather than a claim that the fault stopped. The occurrences below are recorded here; if the decision should change, that is a person's call and not a recurrence's.

    Still occurring: 1 more since the last update (3 total).

    • Last seen: 2026-09-24 10:01:33Z
    • Pods: memex-portal-deployment-5c99d79997-7qdb4, memex-portal-deployment-56fbdcd48f-sz5st
    Recent log lines
    2026-09-22 19:15:39Z memex-portal-deployment-5c99d79997-7qdb4 fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.2.157:11111:149109240 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.2.157:11111@149109240+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.5.235:11111:149109296 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32) #7DD7C24373E25A3A. 
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 45
    2026-09-24 10:00:52Z memex-portal-deployment-56fbdcd48f-sz5st fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.9.67:11111:149247132 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.9.67:11111@149247132+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.3.152:11111:149236134 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32) #1AEC08E01166263E. 
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 45
    2026-09-24 10:01:33Z memex-portal-deployment-56fbdcd48f-sz5st fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.9.67:11111:149247132 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.9.67:11111@149247132+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.3.152:11111:149236134 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32) #1AEC08E011662AA6. 
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 45
    

    Re-addressed by the current identity function: this incident inherited 9dc66e5046d3e6e4 (Systemorph/MeshWeaver.Plugins#1796). Those nodes are superseded and will not fold, file or comment again.

  5. systemorph-com commented on Oct 9, 2026

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    Folded in — a DIFFERENT fingerprint from the same log site.

    This issue tracks the log site 4e28705e75c023b1 (Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7`), and these occurrences belong to it. They carry their own fingerprint — the masking split one site across several — so before this they would have opened a SEPARATE ticket. One log site fanned out into 46 of those, which is why they fold here instead. Nothing is discarded: the distinguishing evidence is below, and splitting this back out is a person's call.

    Folded fingerprint f141b098a0af7b0c
    Log site 4e28705e75c023b1
    Category Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7`
    Severity Error
    Exception System.TimeoutException
    Detail Response did not arrive on time in {n}:{n}:{n} for message: Request [S1{n}.{n}:{n}:{n} {path}:{n}@{n}+Memory_3_memory-{n}-{hex}]->[S1{n}.{n}:{n}:{n} {path}] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int3{n}, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #{hex}.
    Namespace memex
    Pods memex-portal-deployment-5f6b9fc9b-hrdhq
    Occurrences 1
    First seen 2026-10-09 20:39:48Z
    Last seen 2026-10-09 20:39:48Z
    Already folded here 1 fingerprint(s)
    Incident Admin/_LogIncident/f141b098a0af7b0c
    Triage called it Memory-7 stream queue dequeue times out (30s) on remote queue grain — recurrence of the silo-overload timeout pattern from #4802
    What triage wrote about this fingerprint

    What is failing

    The Orleans memory stream provider's receiver for queue memory-7 fails to dequeue messages: the IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue grain call issued from MemoryAdapterReceiver.GetQueueMessagesAsync does not get a response within the default 30 s grain-call timeout, and the receiver throws System.TimeoutException. The adapter itself is not at fault — it is waiting on a queue grain hosted on another silo that did not answer in time.

    Probable cause

    Silo overload or activation starvation on the silo hosting the memorystreamqueue grain, causing the dequeue call to exceed the 30 s response timeout — same mechanism as the previously filed cluster-wide timeout pattern. Confidence: medium; this instance is a single occurrence and carries only the one stack, but the target grain lives on a remote host and the identical fingerprint has a documented history (see duplicate below).

    Impact

    Minimal for this instance: a single occurrence on a single pod. Stream message delivery on queue memory-7 is delayed until the receiver retries; no data loss is indicated since the queue grain retains the messages.

    Duplicate of an already-filed issue

    This is a recurrence of the exact fingerprint filed as Systemorph/MeshWeaver #4802 (incident Admin/_LogIncident/d61395c4eab35f38, 19 occurrences across 13 pods, Aug 22 – Sep 20) and should likely be closed as a duplicate after a human confirms. That ticket covers the same log site and the same dequeue-timeout mechanism, including the sibling queue incidents (memory-0 through memory-6) seen across the same period.

    Where to look

    Left closed — this ticket was closed as NOT PLANNED, which is a decision rather than a claim that the fault stopped. The occurrences below are recorded here; if the decision should change, that is a person's call and not a recurrence's.

    Still occurring: 1 more since the last update (1 total).

    • Last seen: 2026-10-09 20:39:48Z
    • Pods: memex-portal-deployment-5f6b9fc9b-hrdhq
    Recent log lines
    2026-10-09 20:39:48Z memex-portal-deployment-5f6b9fc9b-hrdhq fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.17.110:11111:150582958 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.17.110:11111@150582958+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.3.24:11111:150581184 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0655F76934DC8AC1. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    
  6. systemorph-com commented on Oct 10, 2026

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    Left closed — this ticket was closed as NOT PLANNED, which is a decision rather than a claim that the fault stopped. The occurrences below are recorded here; if the decision should change, that is a person's call and not a recurrence's.

    Still occurring: 6 more since the last update (7 total).

    • Last seen: 2026-10-09 20:43:58Z
    • Pods: memex-portal-deployment-5f6b9fc9b-hrdhq
    Recent log lines
    2026-10-09 20:42:41Z memex-portal-deployment-5f6b9fc9b-hrdhq fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.17.110:11111:150582958 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.17.110:11111@150582958+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.3.24:11111:150581184 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0655F76934DC975C. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    2026-10-09 20:43:27Z memex-portal-deployment-5f6b9fc9b-hrdhq fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.17.110:11111:150582958 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.17.110:11111@150582958+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.3.24:11111:150581184 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0655F76934DC964E. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    2026-10-09 20:43:58Z memex-portal-deployment-5f6b9fc9b-hrdhq fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.17.110:11111:150582958 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.17.110:11111@150582958+Memory_3_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.3.24:11111:150581184 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0655F76934DC91A0. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    
  7. systemorph-com commented on Oct 10, 2026

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    Folded in — a DIFFERENT fingerprint from the same log site.

    This issue tracks the log site 4e28705e75c023b1 (Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7`), and these occurrences belong to it. They carry their own fingerprint — the masking split one site across several — so before this they would have opened a SEPARATE ticket. One log site fanned out into 46 of those, which is why they fold here instead. Nothing is discarded: the distinguishing evidence is below, and splitting this back out is a person's call.

    Folded fingerprint c1485fc26a61fef3
    Log site 4e28705e75c023b1
    Category Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7`
    Severity Error
    Exception System.TimeoutException
    Detail Response did not arrive on time in {n}:{n}:{n} for message: Request [S1{n}.{n}:{n}:{n} {path}:{n}@{n}+Memory_5_memory-{n}-{hex}]->[S1{n}.{n}:{n}:{n} {path}] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int3{n}, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #{hex}.
    Namespace memex-cloud
    Pods memex-portal-deployment-85587f8869-5j9gx
    Occurrences 1
    First seen 2026-10-10 08:25:04Z
    Last seen 2026-10-10 08:25:04Z
    Already folded here 2 fingerprint(s)
    Incident Admin/_LogIncident/c1485fc26a61fef3
    Triage called it Memory-stream pulling agent's cross-silo Dequeue call hangs to the 30 s deadline when the queue grain's silo stalls mid-churn
    What triage wrote about this fingerprint

    What is failing. The PersistentStreamPullingAgent for memory stream queue memory-7 (StreamProviders.Memory) calls IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue on the queue grain as part of its regular pull loop. The queue grain was activated on a different silo from the agent, and that call received no response within the 30 s grain-call deadline — the receiver (MemoryAdapterReceiver.GetQueueMessagesAsync) surfaced a TimeoutException and the pull iteration for that queue failed.

    Probable cause (moderate confidence): transient silo churn during a roll, not a defect in the receiver. The call failed as a timeout, not a fail-fast SiloUnavailableException, meaning the target silo was still in cluster membership when the call was placed but had stopped answering — consistent with a silo departing or stalled mid-roll. The same burst window contains sibling TimeoutException incidents at adjacent log sites (RoutingGrain, GrainCallCancellationManager, OrleansRoutingService, the plain Memory pulling-agent site, memory-1), and the churn window shortly before produced the roll-churn-* SiloUnavailableException cluster — this reads as one echo of a rolling deploy. That is not conclusive from a single occurrence: if this fingerprint recurs outside churn windows, treat the queue grain's silo as wedged and apply the wedge signatures in Orleans Task Scheduler.

    Impact. Low today: one occurrence on one pod; the pull loop retries and self-heals, so the worst case is delayed delivery on the (now fallback) memory-stream leg for the duration of the stall. The class still matters: MemoryStreamQueueGrain is RAM-backed and dies with its silo (the #2322 residual documented in Orleans Stream Pub-Sub Durability), so a stall that ends in a real departure can silently drop what the queue was holding.

    Where to look. Start at the Orleans receiver MemoryAdapterReceiver.GetQueueMessagesAsync (the log site) and its caller PersistentStreamPullingAgent (sys.svc.stream.agent), then at cluster membership/departure events for the queue grain's silo around the burst. Background: Orleans Stream Pub-Sub Durability for the memory-stream leg and its residual loss windows; Pod-Hub Delivery Roll Plan for the transport that replaced it on the primary path.

    Possibly related. The same memory-7 site shows an earlier same-shape incident today (Admin/_LogIncident/f141b098a0af7b0c), and the same window carries sibling TimeoutException incidents (Admin/_LogIncident/49edeead95d1e6b5, f3443c4d60a505f2, c929cd46aec95c86, fb31e284cf14f42d). If those get filed or folded as duplicates of one churn event, this ticket can be closed against them in seconds.

    Left closed — this ticket was closed as NOT PLANNED, which is a decision rather than a claim that the fault stopped. The occurrences below are recorded here; if the decision should change, that is a person's call and not a recurrence's.

    Still occurring: 1 more since the last update (1 total).

    • Last seen: 2026-10-10 08:25:04Z
    • Pods: memex-portal-deployment-85587f8869-5j9gx
    Recent log lines
    2026-10-10 08:25:04Z memex-portal-deployment-85587f8869-5j9gx fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.6.128:11111:150624604 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.6.128:11111@150624604+Memory_5_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.2.73:11111:150623245 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0E50769F7196F1D3. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    
  8. systemorph-com commented on Oct 10, 2026

    @systemorph-com
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    Left closed — this ticket was closed as NOT PLANNED, which is a decision rather than a claim that the fault stopped. The occurrences below are recorded here; if the decision should change, that is a person's call and not a recurrence's.

    Still occurring: 7 more since the last update (8 total).

    • Last seen: 2026-10-10 08:29:49Z
    • Pods: memex-portal-deployment-85587f8869-5j9gx
    Recent log lines
    2026-10-10 08:28:37Z memex-portal-deployment-85587f8869-5j9gx fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.6.128:11111:150624604 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.6.128:11111@150624604+Memory_5_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.2.73:11111:150623245 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0E50769F7196C3C0. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    2026-10-10 08:29:08Z memex-portal-deployment-85587f8869-5j9gx fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.6.128:11111:150624604 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.6.128:11111@150624604+Memory_5_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.2.73:11111:150623245 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0E50769F7196C348. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    2026-10-10 08:29:49Z memex-portal-deployment-85587f8869-5j9gx fail: Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1[[Orleans.Providers.DefaultMemoryMessageBodySerializer, Orleans.Streaming, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]].Memory.memory-7[200402]
          Exception thrown in MemoryAdapterFactory.GetQueueMessagesAsync.
          System.TimeoutException: Response did not arrive on time in 00:00:30 for message: Request [S10.244.6.128:11111:150624604 sys.svc.stream.agent/10.244.6.128:11111@150624604+Memory_5_memory-7-0xE0000007]->[S10.244.2.73:11111:150623245 memorystreamqueue/be8eb06fb4887559070000e007000000] Orleans.Providers.IMemoryStreamQueueGrain.Dequeue(System.Int32, System.Threading.CancellationToken) #0E50769F7196C080. 
             at Orleans.Serialization.Invocation.ResponseCompletionSource`1.GetResult(Int16 token) in /_/src/Orleans.Serialization/Invocation/ResponseCompletionSource.cs:line 236
             at System.Threading.Tasks.ValueTask`1.ValueTaskSourceAsTask.<>c.<.cctor>b__4_0(Object state)
          --- End of stack trace from previous location ---
             at Orleans.Providers.MemoryAdapterReceiver`1.GetQueueMessagesAsync(Int32 maxCount, CancellationToken cancellationToken) in /_/src/Orleans.Streaming/MemoryStreams/MemoryAdapterReceiver.cs:line 54
    
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